无论如何
Said in 2 Chinese podcast lines.
然而到今日还能蒙着小说的名,尚而至于且有成绩的机会,无论如何总不能不说是一件侥幸的事。
However, to still be able to hide behind the name of a novel today, and even have a chance of success, can hardly be regarded as anything other than a lucky occurrence.

呐喊 (Call to Arms) by Xun Lu (1881 - 1936)《呐喊》自序 (na han zi xu)
尼克松总统去中国的时候,他是首席翻译官,当年29岁,现在80岁,身体不好,但是无论如何,世界上在任何领域,都会有一些厉害的人,有机会就要找一些最厉害的人学习,你不要找一些容易打碎的,我认识的有些朋友,就只是在手机上找资料,那这个是无口非的,但是你不要这么简单,相随便便。
When President Nixon went to China, he was the chief translator, 29 years old at the time. Now he is 80 years old and in poor health. However, in any field in the world, there will always be some remarkable people. If you have the opportunity, you should seek to learn from the most outstanding individuals. Don’t just look for the easily breakable ones. I know some friends who only search for information on their phones, and that’s just superficial. Don’t approach it so casually.

香港電台:與CEO對話恒隆地產有限公司董事長 陳啟宗
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